Fbaseballgod 760 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 My thoughts on this convo 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidearmer 2,227 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 deGrom does not have the typical 33 year old pitcher mileage on his arm, and while he has elite stuff, he is also a genius on the mound. He could lose 5 MPH off his fastball and still be a top 20 pitcher based on command and sequencing. I don't see him slowing down any time within the next 3-5 years. Also worth noting his contract is not super long term either so after 3 years he will likely be playing for his last contract. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fielder1831 158 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 2/16/2021 at 9:56 PM, Sidearmer said: deGrom does not have the typical 33 year old pitcher mileage on his arm, and while he has elite stuff, he is also a genius on the mound. He could lose 5 MPH off his fastball and still be a top 20 pitcher based on command and sequencing. I don't see him slowing down any time within the next 3-5 years. Also worth noting his contract is not super long term either so after 3 years he will likely be playing for his last contract. Agreed, Degrom is a different beast! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fawkes_mulder 2,000 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just as insane, he averaged 99 mph last year http://www.brooksbaseball.net/velo.php?player=594798&time=month&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=02/24/2021&s_type=2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brockpapersizer 12,769 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, fawkes_mulder said: Just as insane, he averaged 99 mph last year http://www.brooksbaseball.net/velo.php?player=594798&time=month&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=02/24/2021&s_type=2 Not sure I'd want Gore over him in a year. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fawkes_mulder 2,000 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/16/2021 at 9:56 AM, Ecofolux said: I think if it's 2022 and the Mets offered deGrom for M Gore, the Padres say no. This is the second worst take I've seen on ROTOWORLD/NBC SPORTS EDGE. I couldn't give you #1` because there was a guy who posted a ton in 2019-2020 NBA season about how Lebron James has ruined every franchise he has played for. 2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duke of queens 1,070 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/16/2021 at 9:56 PM, Sidearmer said: deGrom does not have the typical 33 year old pitcher mileage on his arm, and while he has elite stuff, he is also a genius on the mound. He could lose 5 MPH off his fastball and still be a top 20 pitcher based on command and sequencing. I don't see him slowing down any time within the next 3-5 years. Also worth noting his contract is not super long term either so after 3 years he will likely be playing for his last contract. I'd say he's either opting out in '22 or signs a 5 year extension. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FootballFan101 411 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 On 1/1/2021 at 6:21 AM, CrypTviLL said: For redrafts, he HAS to be the #1 pitcher. It's going to be a very weird year for SPs, but DeGrom feels strangely so safe. In many types of leagues he's honestly up there for the #1 overall pick for owners who need an ace they can rely on in a year where there isn't many SPs that can be relied on. There's always injury risk with any pitcher, but to me deGrom and Cole feel about as safe as it can get. I feel there's a pretty significant drop-off at pitcher after deGrom and Cole. After those two, I have some red flags about everyone, either in terms of age/health (Scherzer, Kershaw), workload (Buehler), or overinflated ADPs for pitchers (Bieber, Bauer, Darvish) who pitched exclusively against the two Central divisions last year facing terrible offenses. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoadApple 473 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 deGrom has been filthy tonight. Averaging 99.6 on fastballs and hit 102. Also has thrown a 94 mph slider. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brettg57 738 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I own zero shares of DeGrom but I heard a crazy stat on the Radio just now I want to share. Jacob DeGroms ERA since 2018 is 2.07- probably is the best in baseball IMO. The Mets bullpen during that span? 6.16!! To make matters worse, DeGrom has left with the 5th inning lead, only to have the bullpen blow the lead 31 times. That’s potentially 31 wins he should have during his career. Wow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hanghow 504 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Jacob deGrom Win Checklist: X - Shutout the opponent X - Drive in an RBI _ - Pitch the whole game Ooooh, sorry, try again in 5-6 days. 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
einstein2u 509 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 degrom 2 starts, most hits by mets is 3......by degrom. geez. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CuredMeats 66 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 It really is an indictment of the Mets' franchise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dislimb 1,443 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 This dude is like the Mike Trout of pitchers. Absolutely dominant with absolutely no help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KingJoffrey 956 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Degrom is so good he can shut down 2 lineups in a single start! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Picard56 1,554 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 A little off topic in regards to fantasy, but what is his shot for the hall? May not reach 3000 k's, but surely will get 2,000-2,500 k's. For me if he gets one more Cy young and reaches 2000 k's, he should make it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mks 460 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) 4 hours ago, Picard56 said: A little off topic in regards to fantasy, but what is his shot for the hall? May not reach 3000 k's, but surely will get 2,000-2,500 k's. For me if he gets one more Cy young and reaches 2000 k's, he should make it. The bar has to be drasticially lowered if deGroms numbers get him into the HOF. There is not enough there yet. He has had 4 dominate seasons but thats not enough for HOF. Kluber had 5 pretty dominating seasons also then got hurt.. Lets see what things look like in 5 yrs with him then we can have a better picture. Edited April 12 by mks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Del Rio 531 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 What did he do to piss the luck gods off? First it was no run support for years, now it's having his start PPD due to rain and having to pitch at Coors instead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
knifeparty 275 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Del Rio said: What did he do to piss the luck gods off? First it was no run support for years, now it's having his start PPD due to rain and having to pitch at Coors instead. DeGrom could be pitching on a little league field and I wouldn't worry about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Bat Theory 8,025 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, knifeparty said: DeGrom could be pitching on a little league field and I wouldn't worry about it. And the Mets hitters still wouldn't be able to generate any runs for him on said Little League field. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrfrood 681 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Well another postponed game for our guy. Could be a blessing in disguise for those of us that have complete games for our scoring system. Let's get one of those BS 7 inning CGs! It has been frustrating only seeing him pitch two games so far. He looks as dominant as ever though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B&F 1,074 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 On 4/11/2021 at 10:58 PM, Picard56 said: A little off topic in regards to fantasy, but what is his shot for the hall? May not reach 3000 k's, but surely will get 2,000-2,500 k's. For me if he gets one more Cy young and reaches 2000 k's, he should make it. I don't care what the numbers say. He is a HOF pitcher. I hope the writers ignore any numbers that might say otherwise. As long as he maintains some level of being a really good pitcher for 5 more years he should get in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Picard56 1,554 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 minute ago, B&F said: I don't care what the numbers say. He is a HOF pitcher. I hope the writers ignore any numbers that might say otherwise. As long as he maintains some level of being a really good pitcher for 5 more years he should get in. That's awesome and all, but my point is that the writers that vote in these guys have some arbitrary numbers they like to see players reach for them to consider for the Hall. For me too he is a HOF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Bat Theory 8,025 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 9 hours ago, B&F said: I don't care what the numbers say. He is a HOF pitcher. I hope the writers ignore any numbers that might say otherwise. As long as he maintains some level of being a really good pitcher for 5 more years he should get in. Don't worry. He will get in. The attitude of the old guard changed during King Felix's reign where he never got run support. He even won the Cy Young one year didn't he? These days it is all about QS over Wins anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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