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Well, if you're the Bears, you'd give up many to move up ONE spot and NOT draft Patrick Mahomes. 

The question with guys like Wentz and Goff should not be "how much will you give for him" but rather "how much does the team getting rid have to throw in as compensation for their terrible contracts?"

1 hour ago, DerrickHenrysCleats said:

Broncos could make a nice offer to Houston.

drew lock. Courtland Sutton, von Miller, 2021 first, 2022 first for Watson and something

As a Jerry Jeudy owner  I would LOVE to see this happen!!

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The Athletic's Jeff Howe said the Patriots "have had conversations regarding every potential [quarterback] trade target in the league."

Howe reports that head coach Bill Belichick and the New England organization are keen on upgrading at the QB position but "have so far been thwarted by inflated prices in an offseason that is currently siding with the sellers." The Patriots spoke to the Lions about acquiring Matthew Stafford and to the Eagles about trading for Carson Wentz, though the team was never considered a serious contender to land either quarterback. Howe mentioned Sam Darnold, Teddy Bridgewater, Marcus Mariota, and Jimmy Garoppolo as signal callers who could be pursued by Belichick in the coming weeks. The team is a decidedly unfavorable landing spot for incoming QBs unless and until they upgrade their skill position players -- some of the worst in the NFL. The Patriots haven't ruled out re-signing Cam Newton, whose season with the team could most charitably be described as forgettable. Howe said the team -- which holds the 15th pick in this spring's NFL Draft -- could trade up and take one of the top three or four QBs. 

Source: The Athletic
Feb 22, 2021, 8:16 AM ET
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Be interesting to see if anything develops between Carolina and Houston...

Panthers owner David Tepper is "obsessed" with finding the team's long-term quarterback. 

Carolina last week cleared $28.5 million by releasing defensive tackle Kawann Short, defensive end Stephen Weatherly, safety Tre Boston, and punter Michael Palardy. The moves are widely seen as preparation for making a run at Deshaun Watson, the last high-profile quarterback potentially available via trade after the Rams acquired Matthew Stafford and the Colts acquired Carson Wentz. Texans officials insist Watson isn't available in a transparent attempt to drive up his trade value. The Panthers, meanwhile, were in the running for Stafford but expressed no interest in Wentz. Peter King said his "best guess" is that Carolina will "continue to monitor the Watson situation for the next two months and, if the Texans stick to their guns, look hard at trading up from No. 8 for a quarterback." 

Source: SI.com
Feb 22, 2021, 9:53 AM ET

 

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3 hours ago, The G Man said:

The Athletic's Jeff Howe said the Patriots "have had conversations regarding every potential [quarterback] trade target in the league."

Howe reports that head coach Bill Belichick and the New England organization are keen on upgrading at the QB position but "have so far been thwarted by inflated prices in an offseason that is currently siding with the sellers." The Patriots spoke to the Lions about acquiring Matthew Stafford and to the Eagles about trading for Carson Wentz, though the team was never considered a serious contender to land either quarterback. Howe mentioned Sam Darnold, Teddy Bridgewater, Marcus Mariota, and Jimmy Garoppolo as signal callers who could be pursued by Belichick in the coming weeks. The team is a decidedly unfavorable landing spot for incoming QBs unless and until they upgrade their skill position players -- some of the worst in the NFL. The Patriots haven't ruled out re-signing Cam Newton, whose season with the team could most charitably be described as forgettable. Howe said the team -- which holds the 15th pick in this spring's NFL Draft -- could trade up and take one of the top three or four QBs. 

Source: The Athletic
Feb 22, 2021, 8:16 AM ET

Well Hoodie did attempt to push back on the owner against trading away JimmyG and was ignored, now his warning is coming true.  "If we trade Jimmy, we’re the Cleveland Browns, with no succession plan,” 

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11 minutes ago, jumper said:

Well Hoodie did attempt to push back on the owner against trading away JimmyG and was ignored, now his warning is coming true.  "If we trade Jimmy, we’re the Cleveland Browns, with no succession plan,” 

Funny thing is, that was then this is now. They'd have to get a whole lot better just to be on the same level as Cleveland is now...LOL!

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https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-mock-draft-atlanta-falcons-trade-up-for-qb-justin-fields-denver-broncos-acquire-deshaun-watson

1. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS: QB TREVOR LAWRENCE, CLEMSON

Some around the league “allegedly” view Zach Wilson as QB1 over Lawrence, but this decision is as much a no-brainer as the Jaguars will ever get. Lawrence has everything you could want in a franchise quarterback and is the clear-cut best prospect in this class. The Clemson star is the only quarterback in the PFF College era to earn a 90.0-plus grade as a true freshman, sophomore and as a junior.

 

2. NEW YORK JETS: QB ZACH WILSON, BYU

There is no reason to be concerned about the cupcake schedule Wilson faced in 2020 — the BYU quarterback made NFL-level throws at an incredible rate every time he stepped on the field.

 

His combination of accuracy, arm talent and ability to make off-platform throws is truly special. Just 13.6% of Wilson’s throws beyond the line of scrimmage were deemed uncatchable this past season, the lowest rate in the FBS. His passing grade on tight-window passes also led all quarterbacks, and it wasn’t particularly close.

 

Wilson earned a 90.0-plus passing grade in over half of his games in 2020, leading him to the highest single-season passing grade of the PFF College era (95.5). There will likely be a learning curve, as is the case for most rookies, but we have confidence in Wilson being a quality franchise quarterback prospect.

 

3. ATLANTA FALCONS (VIA MIA): QB JUSTIN FIELDS, OHIO STATE

TRADE! Miami gives the third overall pick to Atlanta in exchange for the fourth overall pick, a 2021 third-rounder, a 2021 fourth-rounder and a 2022 third-rounder.

 

It's a similar trade to the one we saw in the first round of the 2017 NFL Draft when the San Francisco 49ers — who were on the clock at No. 2 overall — traded with the Chicago Bears for the No. 3 overall pick, two third-rounders and a fourth-rounder. The Bears wanted to secure their guy Mitchell Trubisky and ensure no one leapfrogged them. So, they traded up one spot.

 

We could well see the same thing occur in 2021 with Atlanta and Miami, given the possibility of another team trying to pass the Falcons for Justin Fields.

 

Atlanta should be thinking seriously about entering the quarterback market now that Matt Ryan is inching toward the end of his career, and securing Fields would drastically lessen the odds of the Falcons entering quarterback purgatory. In his two years starting for the Buckeyes, Fields earned PFF grades of 91.5 and 93.5, both of which ranked in the top five in the entire FBS.

 

Fields is extremely accurate, takes great care of the football and has unparalleled wheels for the position. He may not come in right away and light up the league as a rookie if Atlanta were to have a change of heart and decide to trade Matt Ryan, but the talent is there for him to be a franchise quarterback.

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8. CAROLINA PANTHERS: QB MAC JONES, ALABAMA

Jones is one of the biggest wild cards in the 2021 NFL Draft. Some believe he will go in the top 10, while others aren't confident I'm him going in the first round. All things considered, I view Jones as a top-10 selection, with the demand at the position being the biggest reason why.

 

The concerns with Jones are all about his physical tools. He may not have a bazooka of an arm like Trevor Lawrence or speed like Trey Lance, but he checks the accuracy and decision-making boxes with ease. The timing and processing he displayed in Alabama’s offense were near perfect, and all of this led Jones to record the best negatively graded throw rate of the PFF College era. To make it all interesting, Panthers head coach Matt Rhule had a lot of positive things to say about the Crimson Tide prospect at the Senior Bowl:

 

“The guy was just playing two weeks ago and the fact that he's here, I think speaks a lot about who he is. You have a chance to see his intelligence. He makes really quick decisions, he processes information quickly — he's an alpha.”

 

It wouldn’t be crazy to take Jones (PFF’s QB5) over Lance (PFF’s QB4).

9. HOUSTON TEXANS (TRADE WITH DEN): QB TREY LANCE, NORTH DAKOTA STATE

TRADE! Houston trades quarterback Deshaun Watson to Denver for the ninth overall pick, a 2021 second-rounder, 2022 first-rounder, 2022 second-rounder, 2023 first-rounder

 

The Texans' brass may keep insisting that they are not going to trade the star quarterback, but Watson looks as good as gone at this point. In fact, FanDuel now has the Broncos as the favorites to land Watson ahead of the 2021 NFL season.

 

If Denver were to acquire the star quarterback, it’s going to take a stupid amount of picks despite the quarterback having a no-trade clause getting in the way. And the Broncos reportedly are willing to do just that. After all, Watson was a top-three graded quarterback of the 2020 season and is on the path to Hall of Fame status, according to the research done by PFF’s Kevin Cole.

 

The Broncos acquiring Watson would have the same impact we saw this past season when Tom Brady signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They’d be Super Bowl contenders right away.

 

As for Houston, they’d be focusing on a full rebuild, and it all starts at the quarterback position. Lance is a high-risk but high-reward prospect to commence that rebuild with. Put simply, Lance’s physical tools are bananas. He’s got a rocket for an arm and has elite athleticism that adds a lot of value to the ground game. But at the same time, he is glaringly inaccurate.

 

Lance played in just one game this year, as COVID-19 caused the FCS to postpone its season. In that showcase game, we saw exactly the same traits from 2019: incredible mobility but glaring inaccuracy. He carried the ball 15 times (13 designed, two scrambles) and put up six explosive runs of 10-plus yards, forcing nine broken tackles along the way. However, just 28.6% of Lance's passes were deemed accurate in the outing.

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60. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: QB JAMIE NEWMAN, GEORGIA

Some people are not going to like Newman being the sixth quarterback off the board over others, but if you're taking a passer at Pick 60, you are doing it solely based on potential. Yes, every pick is based on potential, but there are higher ceilings and lower floors at this point. Of the remaining quarterbacks, Newman has the highest ceiling.

 

After playing in an up-tempo, RPO-heavy offense at Wake Forest, Newman decided to transfer to Georgia for the 2020 season to play in Todd Monken’s pro-style offense. But he ended up opting out due to Covid-19 concerns. We thought he would have immense success in that kind of offense considering his traits, but obviously Newman remains a big question mark since he opted out. His performance after the first couple of days at the Senior Bowl did him no favors.

 

In his 16 starts at Wake from 2018 through 2019, Newman was the fifth-highest-graded passer in college football with an 88.4 passing grade. And he had to throw into more tight or closing windows than anyone in the country due to the offense and a lack of separators within the receiving unit. In fact, over 53% of his passes in 2019 were to a tight or closing window — that’s over 20% higher than any other quarterback in the class in their final collegiate season. Newman’s deep ball was also among the best in the country, as he ranked second to only Joe Burrow in passing grade on throws of 20-plus yards in 2019.

 

With his arm strength, size, mobility, accuracy and touch, Newman has all the tools desired at the next level. Newman could end up the biggest steal of the draft or end up a waste of a second-round pick. Considering that QB is the most important position on the field, he’s worth taking a shot on.

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2 hours ago, jumper said:

Well Hoodie did attempt to push back on the owner against trading away JimmyG and was ignored, now his warning is coming true.  "If we trade Jimmy, we’re the Cleveland Browns, with no succession plan,” 

If they had kept Jimmy G they’d still be worse than Cleveland and would have one less Super Bowl.

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7 hours ago, lolcopter said:

3. ATLANTA FALCONS (VIA MIA): QB JUSTIN FIELDS, OHIO STATE

I'm sorry, why would the Falcons trade up from 4 to 3 when it seems pretty obvious that the Dolphins consider they're set at QB?

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12 hours ago, Boudewijn said:

I'm sorry, why would the Falcons trade up from 4 to 3 when it seems pretty obvious that the Dolphins consider they're set at QB?

While your point is certainly valid, he actually outlined it in his post citing what Chicago did a few years back to draft Trubisky. So, it is plausible.

19 hours ago, lolcopter said:

It's a similar trade to the one we saw in the first round of the 2017 NFL Draft when the San Francisco 49ers — who were on the clock at No. 2 overall — traded with the Chicago Bears for the No. 3 overall pick, two third-rounders and a fourth-rounder. The Bears wanted to secure their guy Mitchell Trubisky and ensure no one leapfrogged them. So, they traded up one spot.

We could well see the same thing occur in 2021 with Atlanta and Miami, given the possibility of another team trying to pass the Falcons for Justin Fields.

'Course, we all know how well that worked out for the Bears....LOL!

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Speaking Wednesday, 49ers GM John Lynch said "I really believe" Jimmy Garoppolo will be the team's starting quarterback in 2021.

Lynch made it sound more like he needs to upgrade the Niners' backup spot behind injury-riddled Garoppolo. “When he’s healthy, he’s played at a high level,” Lynch said. “But we probably have to add someone. We probably need to improve ourselves, so if he’s not there, we’re all right; we can win games." C.J. Beathard is a free agent, and Nick Mullens is a restricted one. The Niners went 13-3 when Garoppolo was healthy for all 16 games in 2019 and advanced to the Super Bowl. But he missed 10 games last season and has been unable to stay healthy for long stretches as a pro. There was speculation the Niners could look to move on this offseason, but Garoppolo's $26.4 million cap number isn't as bad in today's quarterback landscape.

Feb 24, 2021, 3:01 PM ET
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6 minutes ago, The G Man said:

Speaking Wednesday, 49ers GM John Lynch said "I really believe" Jimmy Garoppolo will be the team's starting quarterback in 2021.

Lynch made it sound more like he needs to upgrade the Niners' backup spot behind injury-riddled Garoppolo. “When he’s healthy, he’s played at a high level,” Lynch said. “But we probably have to add someone. We probably need to improve ourselves, so if he’s not there, we’re all right; we can win games." C.J. Beathard is a free agent, and Nick Mullens is a restricted one. The Niners went 13-3 when Garoppolo was healthy for all 16 games in 2019 and advanced to the Super Bowl. But he missed 10 games last season and has been unable to stay healthy for long stretches as a pro. There was speculation the Niners could look to move on this offseason, but Garoppolo's $26.4 million cap number isn't as bad in today's quarterback landscape.

Feb 24, 2021, 3:01 PM ET

Insert Will Ferrell "I don't believe you" gif.

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1 hour ago, The G Man said:

Speaking Wednesday, 49ers GM John Lynch said "I really believe" Jimmy Garoppolo will be the team's starting quarterback in 2021.

Lynch made it sound more like he needs to upgrade the Niners' backup spot behind injury-riddled Garoppolo. “When he’s healthy, he’s played at a high level,” Lynch said. “But we probably have to add someone. We probably need to improve ourselves, so if he’s not there, we’re all right; we can win games." C.J. Beathard is a free agent, and Nick Mullens is a restricted one. The Niners went 13-3 when Garoppolo was healthy for all 16 games in 2019 and advanced to the Super Bowl. But he missed 10 games last season and has been unable to stay healthy for long stretches as a pro. There was speculation the Niners could look to move on this offseason, but Garoppolo's $26.4 million cap number isn't as bad in today's quarterback landscape.

Feb 24, 2021, 3:01 PM ET

More for lack of accessible alternatives than anything else.

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The Athletic's Michael-Shawn Dugar, Mike Sando and Jayson Jenks report Russell Wilson's camp has broached trade destinations with Seattle to the Dolphins, Jets, Saints and Raiders.

The report also notes that "some people around the league" believe a trade will happen, if not this offseason then sometime in the "near future," and that those close to Wilson feel as though the pillars upon which coach Pete Carroll built his program — namely competition and accountability — are applied selectively, especially as it pertains to himself and his sons. If that truly is the case, Wilson would knowingly waive his no-trade clause to join one of the four teams listed above if only to escape Carroll's reign, which runs through the 2025 season after the organization gifted the 69-year-old an extension late last year. It's still possible this relationship is repaired, but the two sides continue to grow farther apart with every passing day.

Feb 25, 2021, 10:40 AM ET
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13 minutes ago, Gohawks said:

Seahawks should fire Carroll’s dinosaur a** and let Wilson pick his coach instead of dealing with this bullshit. 

You're closer to the Hawks situation, but this screams manufactured offseasons drama to me. I'd be shocked if Wilson starts 2021 on any team but Seattle. Shocked.

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2 hours ago, lolcopter said:

The Athletic's Michael-Shawn Dugar, Mike Sando and Jayson Jenks report Russell Wilson's camp has broached trade destinations with Seattle to the Dolphins, Jets, Saints and Raiders.

The report also notes that "some people around the league" believe a trade will happen, if not this offseason then sometime in the "near future," and that those close to Wilson feel as though the pillars upon which coach Pete Carroll built his program — namely competition and accountability — are applied selectively, especially as it pertains to himself and his sons. If that truly is the case, Wilson would knowingly waive his no-trade clause to join one of the four teams listed above if only to escape Carroll's reign, which runs through the 2025 season after the organization gifted the 69-year-old an extension late last year. It's still possible this relationship is repaired, but the two sides continue to grow farther apart with every passing day.

Feb 25, 2021, 10:40 AM ET

AFC West would be looking mighty stacked if LV landed Wilson, and DEN landed Watson...

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6 minutes ago, Blats said:

AFC West would be looking mighty stacked if LV landed Wilson, and DEN landed Watson...

The Bears?  Bears organization has gotta be like me when I match with really hot girl on Tinder thinking must be some kind of mistake.

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On 2/22/2021 at 1:03 PM, jumper said:

Well Hoodie did attempt to push back on the owner against trading away JimmyG and was ignored, now his warning is coming true.  "If we trade Jimmy, we’re the Cleveland Browns, with no succession plan,” 

It's interesting to me that so many continue to claim this as fact. As a Patriots fan, I don't know for sure if it happened or if it didn't...I'm curious to those that are so confident that it did though. Did BB or Mr Kraft confirm it? If not (they didn't), isn't it just speculation from a loose source (Seth Wickersham)? 

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With quarterbacks being arguably the most challenging position in professional sports, it baffles me that so many teams continue to screw up their relationships with franchise QBs...This offseason is bonkers with so many franchise QBs potentially on the move.

Was there ever an offseason with this much uncertainty at the QB position when it comes to franchise signal callers potentially being moved?

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4 hours ago, ajs723 said:

You're closer to the Hawks situation, but this screams manufactured offseasons drama to me. I'd be shocked if Wilson starts 2021 on any team but Seattle. Shocked.

It’s not. Wilson is pissed. I’d be pretty surprised also but doesn’t make it manufactured. 

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2 hours ago, Gohawks said:

It’s not. Wilson is pissed. I’d be pretty surprised also but doesn’t make it manufactured. 

I just mean it's much ado about nothing. I'm sure he's mad, but the Seahawks are a good team with a great QB. It would be unforgivable for them to trade him away while he still has years of his prime left. I don't think they can possibly be that braindead. 

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