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1 hour ago, dontclapGonorrhea said:

Mad Max has 2022 as well on top of Trea for next year. For two high ceiling prospects who have minimal mlb experience. 

Max is a free agent this offseason. 

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How has Josh Bell not been mentioned in trade talks? Switch hitting first baseman that has been getting absolutely ****** this year via a platoon with RYAN ZIMMERMAN. 28 years old on a one year deal. The Nationals would be silly to not move him in my opinion.

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8 minutes ago, collucho said:

How has Josh Bell not been mentioned in trade talks? Switch hitting first baseman that has been getting absolutely ****** this year via a platoon with RYAN ZIMMERMAN. 28 years old on a one year deal. The Nationals would be silly to not move him in my opinion.

With the way Washington is cleaning house, I'm surprised as well. According to Cots, $6.35M so say approximately $3.2M left, one more year of arbitration. He'd be a nice fit with the Red Sox if he were on the move. 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F2ffhCS3Wt8HKiyH7A2Rnsp3tuDw-jOPmvz6-w-fArI/edit

https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/

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14 minutes ago, StevieStats said:

Dude is going to be a free agent for the first time at age 33??? He's a poster child for why FA rules need to be adjusted. That's unacceptable.

Did not make it to the Bigs for the long haul until he was 27.  So why is his free agency year a surprise?  Was in the Minors for 8 years from age 18 to 26.  That is not the norm for players that eventually make it and do well in the Majors.  Far from it.

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8 minutes ago, secretagentman said:

Did not make it to the Bigs for the long haul until he was 27.  So why is his free agency year a surprise?  Was in the Minors for 8 years from age 18 to 26.  That is not the norm for players that eventually make it and do well in the Majors.  Far from it.

He hit the majors at age 24 but got sent back down. The fact the guy got here down in the minors so long that he's not allowed to be a FA until age 33 is a joke. They need a rule along the lines of after X years in the minors your time there counts towards being a FA... So if that number is 4, then after 4 years in the minors each year counts towards you hitting free agency. A 33 year old first time FA is ridiculous.

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1 minute ago, StevieStats said:

He hit the majors at age 24 but got sent back down. The fact the guy got here down in the minors so long that he's not allowed to be a FA until age 33 is a joke. They need a rule along the lines of after X years in the minors your time there counts towards being a FA... So if that number is 4, then after 4 years in the minors each year counts towards you hitting free agency. A 33 year old first time FA is ridiculous.

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Just now, StevieStats said:

He hit the majors at age 24 but got sent back down. The fact the guy got here down in the minors so long that he's not allowed to be a FA until age 33 is a joke. They need a rule along the lines of after X years in the minors your time there counts towards being a FA... So if that number is 4, then after 4 years in the minors each year counts towards you hitting free agency. A 33 year old first time FA is ridiculous.

I believe a player can be a minor league free agent after 6 seasons in the minors.  Many who believe they have a shot at the Majors do not want to go that route for obvious reasons.  They can futz with the rules however they like wrt free agency, but teams in the end need a reason to develop personnel and have them relatively inexpensively for a period of time.  Reducing that has consequences as well and Aguilar is an outlier.  Most players that do not make the Majors after 8 years in the minors end up never making it or being utility players\bottom of the pen arms.

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Just now, 2ndCitySox said:

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Because a team holding you in the minors shouldn't mean they get to own your entire career. So essentially you hold a guy like that down he never accrues time even though he's showing up working and playing every day, he produced 90/100 RBI seasons every year in the minors not like he wasn't hitting, and since you held him down you own his career and he won't hit FA until he's deep in physical decline. 

A player shouldn't be withheld from hitting free agency throughout his career just because a team chooses to hold him in the minors and not call him up. It also deincentivizes teams from calling up the best talent and putting the best product on the field.

I mean if you have to ask why a 33 year old first time free agent isn't right when the guy has been playing pro ball for the Indians since he was 18 years old then I really don't think there's much to say that's going to sway you. Playing for the Indians since 18... Not allowed FA until age 33. That's ridiculous.

Rule 5 was created to give guys like this a shot of not having their career destroyed by a front office holding them down, but the FA rules are still doing the same to some guys that aren't high end prospects.

 

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 I'm assuming that Adam Duvall is on the move today, along with names like Schoop, Bryant, Berrios (assuming the Twins aren't trying to hit a Jose Quintana HR of a trade). We've got to see some moves from the Giants, more from the Red Sox, Brewers and Padres too. It seems like LA and NYY have made their big moves. Where are the Phillies at? The Mets? Still a bunch of teams yet to act, this could get crazy. 

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8 minutes ago, StevieStats said:

Because a team holding you in the minors shouldn't mean they get to own your entire career. So essentially you hold a guy like that down he never accrues time even though he's showing up working and playing every day, he produced 90/100 RBI seasons every year in the minors not like he wasn't hitting, and since you held him down you own his career and he won't hit FA until he's deep in physical decline. 

A player shouldn't be withheld from hitting free agency throughout his career just because a team chooses to hold him in the minors and not call him up. It also deincentivizes teams from calling up the best talent and putting the best product on the field.

I mean if you have to ask why a 33 year old first time free agent isn't right when the guy has been playing pro ball for the Indians since he was 18 years old then I really don't think there's much to say that's going to sway you. Playing for the Indians since 18... Not allowed FA until age 33. That's ridiculous.

Rule 5 was created to give guys like this a shot of not having their career destroyed by a front office holding them down, but the FA rules are still doing the same to some guys that aren't high end prospects.

 

Wouldn't this make teams avoid drafting kids out of high school?

 

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10 minutes ago, StevieStats said:

Because a team holding you in the minors shouldn't mean they get to own your entire career. So essentially you hold a guy like that down he never accrues time even though he's showing up working and playing every day, he produced 90/100 RBI seasons every year in the minors not like he wasn't hitting, and since you held him down you own his career and he won't hit FA until he's deep in physical decline. 

A player shouldn't be withheld from hitting free agency throughout his career just because a team chooses to hold him in the minors and not call him up. It also deincentivizes teams from calling up the best talent and putting the best product on the field.

I mean if you have to ask why a 33 year old first time free agent isn't right when the guy has been playing pro ball for the Indians since he was 18 years old then I really don't think there's much to say that's going to sway you. Playing for the Indians since 18... Not allowed FA until age 33. That's ridiculous.

Rule 5 was created to give guys like this a shot of not having their career destroyed by a front office holding them down, but the FA rules are still doing the same to some guys that aren't high end prospects.

 

Nonsense imo.  First off they can elect minor league free agency.  Second, no team keeps a usable\decent player in the minors for years to hold them down.  They either make room for them via trade or in a bench position or they trade him to some other team for something they can use and where that player obviously is wanted\needed.  Leaving them in the minors for years makes ZERO sense.

Some players are late bloomers...some have their talent improperly evaluated.  Other guys are your prototypical AAAA players (tear up AAA, can't hit a lick in the Majors (see Gittens on the Yankees lol)).  You should not be changing the rules to the detriment of the overwhelming majority of both players and teams to try to cover some outlier cases imo.

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19 minutes ago, Richard Kimble said:

 I'm assuming that Adam Duvall is on the move today, along with names like Schoop, Bryant, Berrios (assuming the Twins aren't trying to hit a Jose Quintana HR of a trade). We've got to see some moves from the Giants, more from the Red Sox, Brewers and Padres too. It seems like LA and NYY have made their big moves. Where are the Phillies at? The Mets? Still a bunch of teams yet to act, this could get crazy. 

Phillies are killing us, such a fun team that's finally healthy and has the locker room all on the same page. 

2008 feels with this team, they need to add though. CAN NOT stand put without addressing rotation and bullpen. 

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