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People are ok taking other pills, will pound peds,  roids, eat like ****, take pills that list 8900 side effects but you'll sure have one nice boner, list goes on and on but a vaccine that millions are fine overall taking and can simply help put this thing away like many many other illnesses in history where vaccines are what eradicated them,  but they're not ok doing this. It's ridiculous honestly,  absolutely ridiculous.  

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10 hours ago, DeliciousGravy said:

I can see all the Bengals guys getting 100+ targets. Do you think any one of them gets the 160 Hopkins got last year?

Nope. but i think one of the bengals WR's will have more yards/td's....which is what counts. with a full year of Burrow..

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9 hours ago, Savatage79 said:

People are ok taking other pills, will pound peds,  roids, eat like ****, take pills that list 8900 side effects but you'll sure have one nice boner, list goes on and on but a vaccine that millions are fine overall taking and can simply help put this thing away like many many other illnesses in history where vaccines are what eradicated them,  but they're not ok doing this. It's ridiculous honestly,  absolutely ridiculous.  

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Another reason why Hopkins wont be a WR1 this year is cause the Delta variant is more contagious and  i bet money he will catch it at some point this season and miss a few games just from that. what a shame. hopefully his mother is vaccinated ...

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10 hours ago, Savatage79 said:

People are ok taking other pills, will pound peds,  roids, eat like ****, take pills that list 8900 side effects but you'll sure have one nice boner, list goes on and on but a vaccine that millions are fine overall taking and can simply help put this thing away like many many other illnesses in history where vaccines are what eradicated them,  but they're not ok doing this. It's ridiculous honestly,  absolutely ridiculous.  

My thoughts as well. Not even from an athlete perspective, but just seeing people refuse to take the vaccine but have no problem eating at the Old Country Buffet and chowing on Big Macs every other day is pretty mind boggling. Diet, obesity, diabetes, heart disease, all much bigger concerns in this country than a ******* vaccine. 

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43 minutes ago, Sonny_D said:

My thoughts as well. Not even from an athlete perspective, but just seeing people refuse to take the vaccine but have no problem eating at the Old Country Buffet and chowing on Big Macs every other day is pretty mind boggling. Diet, obesity, diabetes, heart disease, all much bigger concerns in this country than a ******* vaccine. 

Exactly.  People eat way worse than what a Vax is and what's funny is the vaccines aren't live virus , they're not putting covid in you and yet the misinformation is just rampant. But what sucks is it's always the same,  you look at so many pandemics we've had in the last 100 years and these anti vax morons have always been there, now they just have easier ways to spread their false agenda.

People have lost site of data , when millions are fine and then a few thousand might have issues that's peanuts,  but that's any drug. Hell x amount of men die yearly from viagra,  it just happens occasionally. But I blame the media as well, they make such hoopla out of outlier situations as if it's commonplace, its disgusting 

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1 hour ago, SyNdicateZ said:

Another reason why Hopkins wont be a WR1 this year is cause the Delta variant is more contagious and  i bet money he will catch it at some point this season and miss a few games just from that. what a shame. hopefully his mother is vaccinated ...

How do u know he’s not vaccinated?

im vaccinated and I think it’s complete trash and I support people’s CHOICE not to take it. Maybe he’s just saying it shouldn’t be pushed on ppl and rather a personal choice. 

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1 hour ago, SyNdicateZ said:

Another reason why Hopkins wont be a WR1 this year is cause the Delta variant is more contagious and  i bet money he will catch it at some point this season and miss a few games just from that. what a shame. hopefully his mother is vaccinated ...

A few games? Odds are he'd isolate for 10 days then be back on the field like every player who caught it last season and be just fine in that hypothetical scenario.

Opinions about the virus aside, Beasley brings up a good point about the protocols being mostly for show. Vaccinated players are only tested weekly despite still being able to spread it, whereas unvaccinated players are tested daily. If you really cared about containment the testing policy would be the same across the board.

Forfeit due to unvaccinated players? Forfeit those game checks. Forfeit due to spread among unvaccinated players? Oh we'll evaluate that one as it occurs. It's kind of a joke

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5 minutes ago, Whitecloud0101 said:

How do u know he’s not vaccinated?

im vaccinated and I think it’s complete trash and I support people’s CHOICE not to take it. Maybe he’s just saying it shouldn’t be pushed on ppl and rather a personal choice. 

See it has nothing to do with choice. Let me ask, if a store says no shoes, no shirt, no service...you think you're allowed to walk in with no shoes and shirt and get service? There are a lot of things companies want to enforce with workers and there's nothing wrong with that . Not everything is up for debate in life.

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1 minute ago, Savatage79 said:

See it has nothing to do with choice. Let me ask, if a store says no shoes, no shirt, no service...you think you're allowed to walk in with no shoes and shirt and get service?

I wouldn’t compare buying a pack of camels to this…

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Just now, Whitecloud0101 said:

I wouldn’t compare buying a pack of camels to this…

You're missing the point. A company can absolutely enforce whatever rules they want, if Hopkins don't like it he can leave, simple as that. 

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Just now, Whitecloud0101 said:

I do get it and I disagree with it is all. 

Well when you own a football organization you can have all the unvaxxed players in the world in it, right? So in mean time if you disagree that's fine,  doesn't make nfl wrong in how they want to handle their own business 

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2 minutes ago, Savatage79 said:

Well when you own a football organization you can have all the unvaxxed players in the world in it, right? So in mean time if you disagree that's fine,  doesn't make nfl wrong in how they want to handle their own business 

I get it, I just don’t like the premise of individuals healthcare and suit and tie guys saying you basically have to do that or this or else. When all they care about is the bottom dollar. If I had it my way, everyone WOULD CHOSE to vax, to put this nonsense behind us, but this is a free country (I think) and I support the freedom to decide.

from a fantasy perspective, plz —-Pfizer up. If ya don’t, we’ll that’s your business. Where do we draw the line though? Mandatory vax for every disease? Do I want a dude in the huddle bleeding all over me who is HIV positive? I’ve been tested-he better be! Yea man, I don’t know—-fearful where we going.

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7 minutes ago, Whitecloud0101 said:

I get it, I just don’t like the premise of individuals healthcare and suit and tie guys saying you basically have to do that or this or else. When all they care about is the bottom dollar. If I had it my way, everyone WOULD CHOSE to vax, to put this nonsense behind us, but this is a free country (I think) and I support the freedom to decide.

from a fantasy perspective, plz —-Pfizer up. If ya don’t, we’ll that’s your business. Where do we draw the line though? Mandatory vax for every disease? Do I want a dude in the huddle bleeding all over me who is HIV positive? I’ve been tested-he better be! Yea man, I don’t know—-fearful where we going.

Ah you're one of those. It's ridiculous to be one of those people where you fear the fact that companies want to mandate a vaccine to prevent sickness,  its for a good cause. It's to stop a pandemic, to aid in stopping a pandemic, how evil they are. It's nuts, what's more scary is the idiots who refuse to do their part for disease outbreaks and put their stubborn silly egos ahead of doing their part, taking a Vax at times when needed, that's what is scary....that people just are to stubborn to see what can help a situation. 

 

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1 minute ago, Savatage79 said:

Ah you're one of those. It's ridiculous to be one of those people where you fear the fact that companies want to mandate a vaccine to prevent sickness,  its for a good cause. It's to stop a pandemic, to aid in stopping a pandemic, how evil they are. It's nuts, what's more scary is the idiots who refuse to do their part for disease outbreaks and put their stubborn silly egos ahead of doing their part, taking a Vax at times when needed, that's what is scary....that people just are to stubborn to see what can help a situation. 

 

I’m not one of those—put it this way—I got vaxed to save your life brother.

 

anyways—-I’ll project Nuk to stay delta free and post a 113, 8, 1200 line. Nice shot (no pun) at being wr1 this year. ✌️ 

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10 minutes ago, Savatage79 said:

Ah you're one of those. It's ridiculous to be one of those people where you fear the fact that companies want to mandate a vaccine to prevent sickness,  its for a good cause. It's to stop a pandemic, to aid in stopping a pandemic, how evil they are. It's nuts, what's more scary is the idiots who refuse to do their part for disease outbreaks and put their stubborn silly egos ahead of doing their part, taking a Vax at times when needed, that's what is scary....that people just are to stubborn to see what can help a situation. 

 

Ever heard the phrase you'll catch more bees with honey rather than vinegar? Some people have to come to the decision on their own and no amount of coercion or shaming will accomplish anything. 

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4 minutes ago, lolcopter said:

Ever heard the phrase you'll catch more bees with honey rather than vinegar? Some people have to come to the decision on their own and no amount of coercion or shaming will accomplish anything. 

I get it, doesn't mean people won't think they're absurd is all. But even when showing data and educating most of the anti vaxxers in a kind way it does nothing, they hear nothing. My point is when a company sets their own mandates they have every right, nothing we or anyone can do . So when someone who makes that choice and it's not in their favor they shouldn't be crying about it because that was their choice,  and it isn't in their favor. 

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The NFL hadn't set any mandates though

Edit: Hopkins and others are complaining about the protocols, which I said above are kind of a joke if they actually cared about virus containment

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2 minutes ago, lolcopter said:

Ever heard the phrase you'll catch more bees with honey rather than vinegar? Some people have to come to the decision on their own and no amount of coercion or shaming will accomplish anything. 

I agree here. Ideally everybody does get vaccinated but the nfl as an organization should be looking to discuss the concerns of players and staff that are hesitant. Forcing the issue isn't the solution and all it will do is create a culture of blame. Have conversations with individuals, maybe persuade some maybe find there are legitimate reasons of concern and adjust with that in mind. 

 

We want the best players playing. We want them to be safe, feel safe and feel valued. I don't know what Hopkins particular concerns are but I hope his team at least are looking to sit down and discuss them and try to work with him. When all parties go into a conversation with an open mind you might find persuasion possible. 

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3 minutes ago, lolcopter said:

The NFL hadn't set any mandates though

Edit: Hopkins and others are complaining about the protocols, which I said above are kind of a joke if they actually cared about virus containment

But that's what I mean, mandate wasn't the right word I was going for...im speaking of exactly that ,protocols which I think worked great last year.  I think nfl has done pretty good considering, I'm still amazed we had a fairly productive season last year so I feel they're on point.

 

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5 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

I agree here. Ideally everybody does get vaccinated but the nfl as an organization should be looking to discuss the concerns of players and staff that are hesitant. Forcing the issue isn't the solution and all it will do is create a culture of blame. Have conversations with individuals, maybe persuade some maybe find there are legitimate reasons of concern and adjust with that in mind. 

 

We want the best players playing. We want them to be safe, feel safe and feel valued. I don't know what Hopkins particular concerns are but I hope his team at least are looking to sit down and discuss them and try to work with him. When all parties go into a conversation with an open mind you might find persuasion possible. 

I agree 100%. I think one of the biggest issues is that people think they're getting a dose of covid, and I'm sure that holds many back. There's so much good data on vaccines out there they just need educated. What's sad is alot of people get their negative opinions from the cesspool that is social media and that is what sucks 

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1 hour ago, Whitecloud0101 said:

I get it, I just don’t like the premise of individuals healthcare and suit and tie guys saying you basically have to do that or this or else. When all they care about is the bottom dollar. 

Except that the NFL has pretty much made it mandatory for the Tier 1 and Tier 2 employees, the ones with the suits and ties, to actually be vaccinated. 

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1 hour ago, Whitecloud0101 said:

How do u know he’s not vaccinated?

im vaccinated and I think it’s complete trash and I support people’s CHOICE not to take it. Maybe he’s just saying it shouldn’t be pushed on ppl and rather a personal choice. 

Its obvious he is not vaccinated. Why even threaten to retire and lose out on MILLIONS if your already vaccinated...? 

im aboard requiring all americans to get vaccinated to make this Virus go away and not have to worry about new mutated strands that the unvaccinated help create. If i was President i woukd make unvaccinated tax payers pay higher tax percentages to help pay for Funeral costs and hospital funding..

U can choose to not get the vax, possibly get covid and die, and pay more taxes.....or......get the vax, help eliminate tge virus and possibly grow and extra arm in 3 years

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